Ryan Wolf

But yeah, so on the Parakawai side, you drive down and it's kind of like a winding gravel road.

And if you follow the road all the way to the end, it's called Parakawai Quarry Road because historically there used to be a quarry at the end of the road, which is no longer in use.

But when you go down, though...

You turn off and there's a little fork and it runs down to a Ford where a small creek runs through.

I think it might actually be called the O... Oh, God.

I'm, I'm struggling to remember the name of it now, but it's not a river, but it's, it's a bit bigger than a creek, but it runs through, it runs through over this Ford.

And then you, you drive down through the water and then you go up a forestry road and it's, it's a private forestry road that runs up, uh, up to where urban's body was found.

And the thing with it, that's interesting too, is that you kind of, um, it's sort of something you need to be familiar with, I think, to know.

when you go there and you look at it, whoever put that body there had to be familiar with that spot.

It's not a random spot that you're going to find.

Um,

But yeah, it's in the bush, but it's a forestry block that backs right onto the farmland that's below it.

So you've got kind of these farms that butt up to this forestry block and this forestry road winds up to where Urban's body was found.

And then it's all just surrounded by, beyond that, it's all just like native New Zealand bush, which is really thick, thick bushland.

Yeah.

I mean, in terms of that, are you talking about sort of after the body is found?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think, you know, it's probably one of the great shortcomings of this case, right?

And that's that early on, police made it clear in a way that you probably wouldn't hear today that

you know, they basically said they weren't interested in sightings of Heidi and her barn from the East coast over that side, because obviously sightings were kind of flooding in from that side, different things.