Ryan Wolf

Even, I think, recalling maybe the first letters of the license plate, something like that.

But, you know, I think the police dismissed this as not being connected, but it always stuck for me as...

is seeming like it was something, something of interest.

Um, just based on, I think there was a number of people that saw it.

Um, yeah.

And, and in fact, actually that Valley, that Caronga Valley, uh, where Booms Flat is, there, there are a few campgrounds down there.

Over the years, I've had a number of people contact me, including, um, a couple of people from a school group that believe that they saw Heidi and Urban there.

Um,

that would potentially line up with this booms flat sighting so this guy got hold of me saying that uh his school were there on a you know a school camp trip sort of thing and yeah that he said he was like man like we saw this girl come through uh the bush and of course all the boys were like oh my god look at that girl you know she's so hot kind of thing you know like when you're a 15 year old boy um you know you know and they were and i think he from memory he described it was just

Heidi, if it was Heidi, and Irban, and they were going hiking into the bush or something.

And they were adamant that that's what they saw.

But I think in the end, I'm not sure if the dates potentially didn't line up or something when I actually sort of cross-checked it.

But again, it came back to that thing that there are other people out there as well that look very similar that could have been driving a white car, but

I've kind of gone all over the place answering that question.

Yeah, that's great.

And it's cool for me to listen back to this as well because you relive that whole moment.

And if Barry was that first turning point, I guess then Murray was kind of, yeah, exactly that affirmation of like, wow, this is having a real world effect.

And I'll add just a quick thing on that too is that

With things like this, a podcast like this, it requires listeners and a lot of listeners in general in order for it to kind of work.

Because the way this should work is that I'm investigating a case, but I'm also putting it out there, like you said, in real time so that you might listen and something might trigger and then you can contact me.