Róisín Ingle

And people say we're going to get counselling, we're going to get help for people, but...

No, it wasn't like that.

So I think that's not, I mean, that's a classic, something really traumatic, terrible happened, shocking.

And then there's nowhere for it to go and all those feelings to go.

And it was kind of a case of, I think, you know...

It can make you as well, it can be good as well because you carry on and you're, I think, I mean, that resilience word, but I just think, you know, there is a bit of that you get sort of, something terrible happens to you very young.

You know more about the world than other people in a weird way.

You kind of have deeper insights into the terrible things that can happen.

That's kind of useful in the world as well.

You know, I mean, not just putting a glass half full spin on it, but that is, I feel...

And I don't know if that was if I was like that before, but I've always been and I remember from a very young age, like watching things and observing things and seeing how people are.

And I don't know if it came from that sort of very dark thing happening.

You know, I'm not sure, but I sort of connect them a little bit.

But also I did like because my dad wasn't there a lot.

He wasn't there as a figure for me.

He wasn't somebody that I can tell you loads of stories about how we did this.

And then I really missed him.

So I wasn't like, I had that absence, but it was more this horrible idea that he'd gone out into the back garden and hung himself on an apple tree, you know, where we play and we have our obstacle courses and all that kind of thing.

And there was a very, there was a darkness there, you know.

Yeah, we stayed in the house and the apple tree was there and the life went on.