Róisín Ingle

And I think spontaneity, actually, now that I'm talking to you, I'm thinking I'm quite a spontaneous person.

And he was, you know, the way other people like to know everything that's going on.

I'm quite happy.

Ray is pointing to himself.

I'm quite happy to not know and for things to happen unexpectedly.

And I think he was probably a bit like that.

You know, and a lucky kind of person.

That sounds like a strange thing to say when he got mental illness, but he found luck.

I mean, I always think the way he met my mum was a very lucky accident, you know, and he saw her and could almost envisage this is a good person for me to attach myself to.

And even though she's English and even though she's very different to me, he could see in her something that was going to meld well with him.

And they did.

They had a great, lovely relationship.

You know, having said all the things we've said, they really did.

And, you know, eight children together and all of that.

Oh, God.

My brother was on, was it Joe Maxey was the program?

He won a competition to do a DJ thing and I went out to RT.

I think that's the first time I was there.

I was like, oh, my God.

Michael, you need someone to go with you to Joe Maxey.