Saagar Enjeti

Do I think they're going to ever release anything that definitively, legally puts anybody in jeopardy for it?

Probably not.

I hope they do, but probably not.

But what we are going to be able to see are the contours of the sprawling and obvious intelligence operation.

And that's proven through Ryan's reporting with Moz.

Yeah, and it's interesting.

It's like, what kind of a smoking gun would actually be needed?

Because it then depends on what you're trying to prove.

Like, if all you're trying to prove

is that he had lots of connections with American intelligence and Israeli intelligence and also elites in, in Russia and Europe.

Uh, it's proven done.

Gotcha.

You're covered.

If you want to know specifically what he was doing, uh, you know, we, we can lay out some of it, you know, so far we can tell you what he was doing in Syria with, with Mongolia, with Kota Bor.

Uh, soon we're going to have some Angola stuff.

We'll have some Nigeria stuff.

Um,

we can tell you exactly what's going on with the, you know, the different gems and the gold mining.

Like there's like enormous amounts of details you can get into.

So like, but then you're like, okay, well now I know, now I have a ton of details about this global network.