Saagar Enjeti

Right.

And it's not just us saying this.

It's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well.

But let's also take a very close listen to something that was put out by Xi Jinping from his official translation, a warning about the Thucydides trap.

Let's take a listen.

Trump's like, oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

Thucydides Trap.

I remember reading about that.

I thought deeply about this topic.

For those of you who don't know, Thucydides Trap, I think we had a whole unit on it back in graduate school.

It's Graham Allison.

It stems back to the war between Athens and Sparta.

And the idea was that Athens was like the rising, sorry, Athens was the established commercial power and Sparta the rising war state.

And that eventually culminated in a war which weakened both powers.

And that's the trap.

The trap, the idea that war was inevitable between the two states and that made it so that a war that was actually bad for both powers ended up becoming the trap itself.

This has actually long kind of been part of Chinese strategic thinking.

It's something they emphasize a lot.

I also remember this.