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Yeah.

It was.

How I discovered Nirvana in an Israeli bomb shelter.

I'm almost certain to come from the free press at some time.

That interview, I thought, was explosive, I think, for how simply confronting them with basic facts, like that point about democracy.

They don't even talk about democracy.

It's like a hidden thing that manifests as a shadow or a ghost where they call themselves democracy.

And if you say it enough times, then they try to make it true.

But when you point that out, you're like, there are millions of people under control.

It's like the compute goes wrong.

Same with terror, calling them a terror state.

So anyway, I loved it.

I think everybody...

The whole thing is available.

It's 46 minutes long if you want to.

Maybe we'll link it in the description.

But he also gave an opening monologue, which is kind of what inspired some of my thoughts about Massey when I was talking about earlier today that I listened to on my way in.

And I was like, wow.

I mean, it was profound in its sense of betrayal from Donald Trump and kind of analyses of how we got here.

And look, there are many criticisms of –