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Risk number two is horizontal escalation, which I believe you've just talked about.

Risk three is global infrastructure vulnerability.

Risk four is military and economic strain.

And risk five is strategic distraction.

Can you just break some of that stuff down for us so we can get into it?

Professor, I am very worried about the breaking of a nuclear taboo, not necessarily just in the use of a tactical nuclear weapon, but an atmospheric nuclear test.

Where would that fit into your escalation line?

Last question for you, sir.

You said this is close to the most disastrous campaign.

What is the most disastrous campaign?

I was going to say that's the LBJ trap.

Great tactic.

Sir, thank you so much for joining us.

Escalation Trap, sub-stack link is down in the description.

Also, I just ordered your book on Amazon while you were talking.

Oh, my God.

It's on my way to my house, and I'll do a review here on the show.

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Let's put E4 just to give you an example.