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Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here.

Who do you think he is?

I don't know.

You mean, like, the president?

You think Canada has a president?

You think China has a president?

Let's walk through that.

It is an actual Polish saying.

Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time.