Sally Hayden

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649 appearances 5 recordings 3 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 21 Jun

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The Women's Podcast · Festival women / Sally Hayden on love during wartime · 4 Jun 2026 podcast

So ISIS basically was stopping people from using the phone.

If you had a phone and you were caught using it, they could consider you that you were a spy.

Maybe you were like sending out information about them.

And also like getting phone connection was hard.

But Marwan and SAFE were having phone calls on their roofs because that was the only place they could get connection.

And in the middle of the night, and they basically said,

Yeah, they said these long phone calls, that was kind of how they fell in love.

And then they ended up getting married.

And at the time, music was forbidden.

So they actually did play music, but very quietly.

And yeah, it was really interesting.

They're still together.

I met them and their children, who were so lovely.

And, yeah, it was just interesting kind of exploring that situation.

But through that perspective, I also met, as you mentioned, so Valentine's Day was banned under ISIS, but now it's kind of come back and people are getting more and more enthusiastic about it.

I met a florist.

So when I got to her shop, it was the day after Valentine's Day.

And there were like stems of roses like all over the floor.

And she was like, you know, it's been crazy.

There's been so many people like the men are under pressure.

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