Sally Hayden
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649 appearances
5 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 21 Jun
Sally Hayden’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And they're not just this terrible thing that's happening to them.
They have agency, they make decisions, they have, you know, relationships and communities.
And yeah, it's been quite, quite meaningful.
The book actually only just technically publishes today or later.
I'm not sure exactly when this is airing but around today but it's already reached Lebanon somehow and people there have been messaging me saying actually we feel like this is really emotional for us because we feel like this is showing that it's complex you know it's not just we're not just one thing or the other.
Yeah, I mean, I say in the book, not just starting out as a journalist, but as a human, you're very, or maybe not everybody, but I think a lot of people are very idealistic.
You think you can change the world and later you, yeah, you do get ground down by feeling that.
no tangible change may come.
And actually, I say that, but tangible change does come even, I'm sure you've definitely experienced it.
Like, I've experienced it from writing certain stories, you know, particularly on an individual level.
Someone will step forward and say, like, can I help that person or what can we do?
But the more kind of systemic change and the bigger situations, unfortunately, they
tend to stay the same.
And I think that that's very difficult to kind of grapple with and yet to come to terms with.
And at the same stage, I guess there is a meaning, but we can struggle to find it.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I wouldn't say it's like a trick to write about love, but I do think that I didn't want to kind of leave out context.
Like I wanted to tell the stories, but with details about the actual situation as well, rather than just making it.
a very kind of sugar-coated version that doesn't reflect the reality people are living in, which of course is not simple.
But yeah, I mean, hopefully it makes people connect and reflect on the ways that we can be the same when people are so far away.
And I think...
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