Sally Hayden

And I think that chapter, I mean, it really focused on motherly love.

I did like a maybe strange thing.

But during the period that I was writing this book, I went around and like in different countries that I was in, it didn't make the final version.

But I just asked people, you know, questions about love.

And I was in Sierra Leone.

I lived there for a while.

And I

we were in a market and just asking everybody, you know, who do you love the most?

And like so many people were like my mother, like it's my mother.

She's sacrificed so much for me.

She's done all of this for me.

I think one of the things about love and about writing about love is like often it's not expressed.

So often you see love through actions.

People, they're really bad at talking about it.

It's like everywhere probably in the world.

But

I did think that this was very notable how when you explicitly ask somebody, particularly mothers, like they always talk about or mothers will talk about their children.

You know, it's a very kind of it can be a very pure, pure and beautiful love.

Yeah, I mean, so that was when ISIS was in control.

So for the book, I set one chapter in Mosul, the northern Iraqi city.