Sally Hepworth

Which, you know, I mean, that sounds wonderful.

It's still, you know, you look at the numbers and I've got three kids and you go, wow.

But I definitely was happy to, you know, to keep things nice.

I was like, yep, you know, I wasn't fighting.

But I also think that...

you can do everything right and it can still be hard.

Look, I mean, I'm sure there are people who've got some whimsical, wonderful divorce, but then, you know, why are they getting divorced?

No.

There's a few, you know, sort of five years plus down the track that now are working well together.

Right.

I had to... And look, I actually... This was the best thing I ever did.

I had to accept that I was in charge of what happened in my house and Christian was in charge of what happened in his house.

And it's the most unnatural thing when you are a parent...

even to, you know, not have your kids with you half the time, but to let go of things that are really important in your life, like this is what time they go to bed, things you're used to having control over.

This is what they eat.

This is they shower.

There are so many things that you have to, that kind of stuff, bedtime, showering, whatever.

I felt so much better when I stopped going

And, you know, you keep it to the important things and there weren't any of those.

You know, like they were alive and looked after well by their dad.