Sam Bamford

Well, they've just given another $50 million to go after veterans, so they might get a bit more funding to try and get that stuff to pin him in court.

That's why I think to myself, and this is my conspiracy theory brain, it's like the old conquer and divide.

You know what I mean?

Divide and conquer.

Divide and conquer.

Same thing.

I just think I like... I just think it's incompetence.

Do you reckon it's incompetence or it's done very, very strategically?

Which is scary because that's even scarier than people doing it deliberately.

Oh, these people are morons.

They're morons.

I mean, I can say they're morons.

They are so slow in their head.

The lack of trust and...

I mean, this is one of the main things people are drawn towards Pauline at the moment because they're like, oh, what she was saying 30 years ago, she hasn't changed her message.

That's one of the main reasons.

That's a lot I hear about.

I hear that a lot.

I hear that saying a lot.

And I'm like, you've got a fair point there, right?