Sam Edmund

That is very true.

And John Gardner out there, whoever you might be, you could not be more wrong than what you've just sent through.

You could not be more wrong.

I read that from Johnny Gardner.

I don't know where people get this information from.

But this is what happens, Tim.

This is what happens.

Exactly.

There's a lot of emotion in this.

But the other thing is that I would think that the Essendon Football Club, despite the fact that we get unbelievable feedback from people via the temper text, and we really appreciate everybody sending your messages through it,

But the other thing is that the Essendon Football Club will be getting a lot of feedback, too, from its members direct to the Essendon Football Club.

And, you know, whether or not people want James Hurd to come back or they don't want James Hurd to come back.

So that would probably be what they'd be looking at, too, in terms of, OK, what is how big is this groundswell?

of support for James out there and what sort of a problem what sort of appeasement do they need to be able to provide to all the Essendon fans because when it's all said and done Gary it is the fans club like a football club is the fans club and you don't want to go against your own fans but at the same time you are put there in a position where you are

given the responsibility of making the right decisions for your club to be built with a solid foundation so that it gives you the opportunity to have sustainable success.

And Essendon is still going through that process now.

Pete's in Paran.

Good morning, Pete.

Righto, I think we get a pretty clear understanding of where you're coming from.

That's not us or our program advocating for James Heard.