Sam Edmund

Couldn't be better.

Hall of Fame, all of that, but you've played in two winning finals.

And I think it's an interesting discussion.

He probably played, I'd have to go back and look at the numbers, but rarely did he play poorly.

He doesn't have many poor games, but as a leader of this footy club, there's a lot of, I don't know, how demanding has he been on this group?

I see a lot of sort of smiles with Kripp, right?

I never really see him be demanding of his teammates.

I never really have.

I've never seen him be demanding.

not accepting of what they have delivered for so long.

Now, maybe it's a situation like, maybe Dustin Martin might have been the same at Richmond, but they brought in others to help him.

Maybe Carlton never supported Patrick Cripps with the defensive runners, the high half forwards.

that can cover for his weaknesses and just let him be the star.

Maybe that's unfair of me to even raise that because he hasn't been helped.

But it's an interesting one for his legacy because it's about winning.

It's about winning finals, about winning premierships.

And through the whole of his career, he's played in two winning finals.

Dictates your legacy.

I think so.

You think it does?