Sam Hawley

So how significant is that in your mind?

Well, Missy, this is the third, as we said, unsuccessful attempt on Donald Trump's life.

He says he's not going to live in fear.

But as you say, it really highlights the threat of political violence in America, doesn't it?

It must be deeply concerning what's unfolding.

All right, well, Donald Trump, he continually, of course, talks about this ballroom he is building at the White House, and he says this is exactly why he needs it, for safety.

But Missy, what do you think?

Did the protocols work or is there a fundamental problem with how this all unfolded?

All right.

And just then, Missy, your reflections.

What an evening.

As a reporter, as a guest, what do you take away from this whole event?

I assume you wouldn't want to relive it.

Missy Ryan is a staff writer at The Atlantic magazine.

This episode was produced by Sydney Peed.

Audio production by Cinnamon Nippard.

Our supervising producer is David Cody.

I'm Sam Hawley.

Thanks for listening.

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