Sam Hinkie

For sure, APIs.

I could drone on forever about APIs.

I'm such a big fan.

Those are examples of kind of rabbit holes that I've gone way, way down.

Maybe to peel back then in one more layer on APIs, what is something in that field that you think surprised you or made you take a special note?

You've got an interesting note-taking system that I'm fascinated by.

And I'm always interested when you pull out those small pieces of paper to take a note on, like what's something in the world of APIs that's led you to take a special note?

I increasingly have this view that it's going to be APIs all the way down and that over and over you're going to outsource more and more of your business to some maybe micro targeted, very narrow piece of software.

Only in COVID do people make bread for fun at mass.

We've outsourced bread making to someone quite good at it.

I just think that's going to keep happening.

With APIs, you've stopped building software for people.

Now you're building it for software.

And connecting those two together, I think it's likely to be really, really huge.

And I think over time, sometimes I think about it more like science, that it's like speciation, that you'll get more and more ever-nitchy things that will emerge and that will be dominant.

will just be absolutely dominant.

There's no world in which you should try to like fight this thing yourself because it doesn't make any sense.

Patrick McKinsey, I mentioned him earlier.

I love the way he writes about this, which is like someone somewhere built some tool and they care about that tool as much as you care about anything, anything.

If it matters and it might not, maybe it's something small, let them do it.