Sam Hinkie

We may take it in some weird places.

We may not talk about just your business.

We may get down a whole bunch of what seemed like rabbit holes to you, but you're getting all my attention.

I'm like sort of filled with wonder about who you are and...

what you know and what you could teach me and what's interesting.

And often, I mean, venture by nature, the nature of sort of how I look at things now is like, are you trying to see, call it 500 deals in a year and do five?

So by definition, you're saying no.

If people are asking for money, you're saying no.

The overwhelming majority of the time,

That doesn't mean I can't try to find things to store in my brain about what it is they're looking for or what they would be amazing at or who would be a perfect partner for them if in fact I'm not.

And so I'm trying to like dig and dig and dig to understand what's deeply meaningful to them and see what they can sort of teach me along the way.

You said in the beginning, when you're meeting somebody, you're trying to get a sense for how they think.

Who stands out in memory as an example of someone that thinks in a very strange or different way that interests you?

I'm drawn to a bunch of people who sort of footnote as they go, and you can't help but hear it because they talk about it.

So they'll summarize a book in two phrases.

That's not that good.

If you haven't read that, you should maybe read this.

You get a sense there's real evidence behind that.

I think a lot of the people in sort of public discourse these days, that's obvious when you talk to them that they think about it differently.

I think both of the Collison brothers are sort of similar to that.