Sam Kamani

Generally, I plug everyone there, but yeah, it's all good.

Yes.

And, you know, when earlier we were talking about payments and I actually just spent a little short time in China and I saw these all these

these sort of mega apps like WeChat and Alipay and all those.

Are you taking any lessons from those or where does the tone fit in a feature like that?

Fantastic.

And a question for Glenn.

Can you share a bit about your go-to-market strategy for the payment side of things for Tom?

Yeah, absolutely.

Earlier, we were having a conversation around Stripe and how it is so extractive, like it extracts so much.

But still, I've been a developer in the past.

The reason I always ended up going with Stripe is because it connected using APIs to everything.

It's like, yeah, what's your strategy in attracting developers?

That's fantastic.

It's like, you know, abstraction is always like so vital for adoption when it comes to payment side.

Do you look up to or do you learn from any other project?

Could be outside of Web3, could be in Web3 that have done abstraction really well and what features are you looking at integrating or how are you thinking of making it possible?

That's very interesting.

That is highly inconvenient.

Would you ever look at introducing cards, physical cards as well, that you could load from Don?