Sam Koppelman

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Pablo Torre Finds Out · We Investigated Magic Johnson, Mark Walter... and Your Nest Egg · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

The big pool of money that he has access to is insurance money.

The way this works is basically Americans buy life insurance policies.

They come in two forms.

One is if something tragic happens to you, you've paid into these insurance plans and money will be paid out to your family members who are left behind.

The other way is while you're working, you can pay money into a life insurer, something called annuities.

And you end up getting paid out annuities later in your life.

So you're investing today for some kind of payout tomorrow.

But the way insurance companies actually work is that they invest those upfront payments.

That's their business.

Exactly.

And historically, the insurance companies would invest in safe assets.

They'd buy bonds or real estate, the kinds of things you could bet on to reliably over time go up.

But the problem with those things, Pablo, is that they're boring.

Way more boring than sports teams because they don't enable the owner of an insurance company to keep that much after they distribute to their policy holders.

So insurance companies, they start buying more and more.

Out there kind of stuff.

Exactly.

And a lot of this, to be clear, is legal.

The thing is, there's one category of investment you're not allowed to make without proper disclosure.

And that's if you're using insurance money to invest in another one of your own businesses.

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