Sam McKee

And so I think they did interview him.

I don't know if it was in person.

I don't know if they brought him up here.

They did it by Zoom.

But I do believe there was at least one conversation slash interview with Meta.

And then it was reported that they were interested.

And two days later, New Jersey just got in there and said, no, no, no.

We're doing this.

Well, also, don't forget, he's from there, and he's used to it there.

That also might have been, I haven't spoken to him, so I don't know, but, Nick, that may have been a personal choice.

Well, Justin, I always believe nothing is done until it's done.

So I think they're going down this road.

I think they are trying to get this done.

But until you have...

signed contracts, it's not done.

I mean, you know, you guys probably remember there was a time the Maple Leafs thought that they were going to get David Poyle, and he decided no.

And then there was a time they thought they were going to get Bob Ganey, and he decided no.

I've seen in other sports, I've seen

players and executives think that they were going somewhere and at the last minute there was a snag and it never happened like you know they have to reach a deal with Sandin and while I think they're in that process right now until you have either a verbal agreement or a signed contract like that's one thing like if this doesn't happen I don't know where this is going to go

but I think, but right now they've decided this is the path they're going to go on.