Sam Morris
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82 appearances
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard May 2025
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Where I would really come in and be helpful is if he is found guilty, again, preparing him and his family for what's next. Because a USP is dramatically different than a detention center. And the strategies to get him the most amount of freedom as quickly as possible is something that I would want to work with him on.
But first and foremost, if found guilty, where to get him to a place that he's safe, that his family knows he's safe, so that he can then institute whatever strategies we can put into place for him given those circumstances.
Sure. So I would actually recommend that if he is found guilty and depending upon the length of the sentence and what he's found guilty of, that he would go to a USP, United States Penitentiary, which is the highest level security facility other than Ad Max in Florence, Colorado. probably in Tucson, Arizona.
The reason I say that is that's where somebody has a life sentence that's convicted of a sex crime can serve safely. So where Sean Combs currently is, is a segregated, protected floor of 18 men. Now, it might not be full, but can hold 18 people, high profile, very safe. If he's found guilty and if he is transferred to a high security penitentiary, it is at that point that he could be in a prison
prison with 40 foot walls and gun towers and individual cells on a block that might hold 400 men.
And he's truly in a general population environment where when they are allowed outside, he's on a closed yard with potentially a thousand men under heavy guard security with controlled movement, which means they can only move around the facility in one direction at 10 minutes before the hour for 10 minutes.
And it is subject to substantial violence because in a high security facility, you will see the worst of the worst. People that have nothing to lose by catching another charge. Gang members, it's very common to see that. So the goal would be to get him to the safest of the high security facilities, which in my opinion currently is USP Tucson.
where they have a sexual offender yard that is a protected yard. He would be amongst other sexual offenders that have lengthy sentences, but that for whatever reason might need a higher level of protection.
And even if somebody like Louis Mangione was convicted and found guilty and sentenced to a long period of time in the federal system, and it's not a sexual charge, I would still recommend going to a place like that because as of today, that is the safest of the United States penitentiaries in the system. Why is it considered the safest? Because of the population.
So if you think about the population, a higher propensity or population of sexual offenders... They don't put gang members there, or maybe they'll put gang dropouts there. So they really do their best to filter the population that goes in there. So it is certainly not a Four Seasons by any means in terms of the prison system, but it is the safest place where he will be able to survive. And live.
That's it. Other than that, it is identical to every other high security facility.
A judge can only make a recommendation. So again, when I work with my clients, we do a lot of work with our clients to figure out what's the best facility for them prior to sentencing. Then at sentencing, we have certain asks of the judge, which are strictly recommendations. And then once we get that, we, my firm, works with the Bureau of Prisons to get him to that facility.
So we asked for a judicial recommendation. Judicial recommendations are followed about 74% of the time, but it's no guarantee. It's strictly a recommendation. We then take the judicial recommendation, the judgment, and work with counsel and the Bureau of Prisons to get him there.
That's very far away from New York. It is, but at least his family can come visit him as opposed to going someplace like Canaan USP in Pennsylvania that might be closer to him. But if you only survive a few weeks or a few months, there's a big picture here.
And if found guilty and the worst comes to the worst, you still want to be able to survive and see your children grow up when they come and visit and be able to communicate with them.
Well- A good legal team will always bring in a good consultant. I find that many lawyers do not know about us or a lot of them have what we call God complex and think they can handle it all. The best attorneys know their limitations and know when to bring in other members of the team, forensic psychologists, doctors, consultants.
As of now, it's my understanding he does not. Would you suggest that he get one? I would. I strongly would. However, again, there are certain defendants that put their head in the sand and are convinced that they're going to beat the charge. And in their own mind, sometimes the notion of hiring a prison consultant is self-defeating. Like, okay, I've resigned myself to go to prison.
And if I don't hire a prison consultant, then maybe I won't go to prison. I don't know why that logic exists, but I've seen that.
The best defense is a good offense, but I always tell my clients, imagine you're the conductor of the train. You drive the train. Everybody else works for you and will follow your instructions. The more knowledge you have about what's in front of you, what obstacles are in front of you, will make it a better ride or a more navigable ride. Can't guarantee the outcome by any means,
But the more information that you and your team have available to you, the better the decisions that you can make are. And at most of these junctures, a defendant only gets one bite at the apple. And if they screw up that bite, they have a much greater hurdle down the road.
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