Sam Reich

You know, because sometimes Game Changer is a game and other times it's more akin to performance art.

And there certainly are the game wonks who like those episodes better.

And then there are sort of like the kind of lighter hearted audience members who appreciate Game Changer sort of no matter what it is.

I really wanted to do this episode, and I would say that we pushed it through despite some inherent flaws that it has.

And one of them is that the conclusion is inevitable.

But what we wanted to do with Jacob and with the audience is to sort of like tease them in terms of just how inevitable is it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To make him feel like there might actually not be a net underneath him and to trick the audience into thinking there might not be a net underneath him either.

But of course, I would not have let him fail.

Okay.

I mean, I think like happens to industry in general.

Industries take on meta qualities as people want for them to be more successful and therefore business people take over in an effort so that those businesses make more money.

I think therefore what you get is a little bit of like separate what's occurred.

What I've seen occur is this sort of separation between these companies that are giant and monolithic and they're run mostly by finance people or maybe like promoted legal or marketing people, because those are the people who the board has basically decided can best pull the business levers.

Right.

Creative is the product, right?

But let's pull the levers of the business.

The product is a minor part of the business.

I'm saying that facetiously, but that's the attitude of these companies.

Yeah.