Sam Roberts

you almost go, well, the moment of Punk being champion is like, this is so cool.

And the story at first is, wow, after all this time, you didn't even think he would ever be back, and now CM Punk is the man, and he's the world heavyweight champion, and that's great.

But what is the story of the reign?

What defines CM Punk's title reign?

And I think the answer to that question is,

is finishes like we see in matches like this, in matches with Braun Breaker, where it's not about chicanery.

It's not about interference.

It's not about an angle or pushing the story this way.

Right.

It's about outsmarting in this moment, on this night.

It's about the fact that CM Punk, that something happens when you've been wrestling as long as CM Punk has.

Corey Graves talked about it on commentary at the beginning of the match.

He talked about CM Punk's wrestling psychology and the fact that he can solve puzzles that he doesn't even know exist yet.

And I think that that is how you have to define this title reign for CM Punk, that he finds that one opening, that one thing that he needs.

It's not about this formulaic, systematic beat down and ripping apart.

It's about, oh, there was the opening.

That's right.

Yeah, and it's also about his ability to survive, just to keep fighting and keep fighting.

There's very few wrestlers

that have that reputation as much as Punk, where you can just throw anything at them, and they're gonna find a way, they're just scrappy.