Sam Sanders

I'm glad you mentioned that.

RFK Jr., current HHS secretary, he has recently declared an end to the war on protein.

He's refigured the American food pyramid and suggested that we all should be eating some kind of protein with every meal.

How does that make you feel?

Okay.

Okay.

So there was lobbying behind this.

This is so interesting.

I'm very curious.

You two have spent years now studying the science and culture of protein.

What is the biggest way in which you've had your minds changed about something in this universe?

Yeah.

When you are faced with a cornucopia of protein options, when you're being offered the protein foam on your latte, when you see the Kardashian protein popcorn in the store, when you're about to start worrying about your protein intake for the day, what do you two do?

Wait, wait, stop.

Stop.

Say that again.

OK, so now I'm going to have to send you both a picture of me enjoying that.

But perhaps the big note for this entire conversation is protein abides.

Just eat.

It's a lovely place to land.