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Sam Stein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

I've been very jealous of her because when we were doing a lot of the Doge reporting and we were getting a lot of people coming to us talking about what life was like in the federal government, I kept looking up and seeing the Post getting great scoop after great scoop after great scoop.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

And what this will do in practical terms is it will send an incredible signal to anyone who's doing this type of reporting that you might get targeted by the government.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

And it will also send a signal to every source out there, potential source out there, that the government's going to come after you.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

I think that's obviously what the administration wants.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

100%.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

Now, it's important to get to the press response because you are right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

It's not unprecedented.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

There have been cases in the past, including during the Obama administration.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

My recollection is that during the Obama administration, when this did happen, there was a big outcry from throughout the industry, including from conservative publications.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

about what was happening.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

And so much so that the administration then put in place some standards outlined by Eric Holder, the attorney general at the time, that would more or less police how the Department of Justice could go about doing these things and gave some protections to reporters.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

Those were, of course, not law.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

They were standards.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

And so Pam Bondi undid them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

But I'm not seeing that type of reaction now.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

There's no sympathy for the press, obviously, in the public, but also the people who you would expect from within the industry to say, hey, this is wrong.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

Some of them have spoken up, but not everybody.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

Obviously, the most conspicuous absence is Jeff Bezos, who is the publisher of The Washington Post, has an incredible amount of business before the government, has sucked up to Trump repeatedly because he needs those government contracts and doesn't want to be targeted by him.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

But he is the publisher of the Washington Post.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sam Stein: Trump Is Trying to Instigate Unrest

His employee had her personal computer confiscated by the government.