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Samir Chaudry

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649 total appearances

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

And then the Perl argument is that you can basically buy GLM, not GLM, it's Gemma on Together AI for a 25% discount because the miners are subsidizing it.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

Now, the funky thing is that like you can also buy it for like 50 percent less than their subsidized version on open router.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

Right.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

So so you're like you're kind of like market cap dependent.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

You need this thing to really, really move in order for it to provide a meaningful subsidy.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

But, you know, there is an argument that I think the compelling zoomed out argument is that, you know, TSMC back in 2017 or 2018, you know, 10 percent of their of their product was Bitcoin ASICs.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

And now it's like way less than 1%.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

And so if you're like, okay, you want to secure money with proof of work, very, very high level.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

It's like, why wouldn't you secure it with GPUs?

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

You know, there are arguments why you wouldn't, right?

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

Because you're like, it's because you're literally burning GPUs, which are productive assets to secure this thing, which is even worse than burning energy for Bitcoin mining.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

But that's kind of a separate argument, right?

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

It's an architecture level.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

Render and a lot of these coins, including BitTensor actually, are stake coins.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

They're not actually secured by the operation of a GPU.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

This Pearl thing is a regime shift.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

It's trading at a $2 billion FDV on private.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

There's token sales.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

It's starting to move.

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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good

It's a relatively new story in crypto AI.