Samuel Moyn

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Interesting Times · How Older Americans Hoard the Future · 30 Jul 2026 podcast

And if we just have this fiction that older people are there for the wisdom they have in their heads and not everything they've acquired and are keeping that they should begin to pass on under the right conditions, then I think we haven't really, you know, organized the inevitable succession that our humanity involves very well.

They're not going to get everyone among the old on their side.

but they could deploy some tough love, let's call it that.

And it would involve the insistence that you've had your turn and you have a chance one more time in your life to reinvent yourself.

But what you cannot do is deprive the rest of us of our futures or just make us wait until we're old to enjoy resources.

But there would also be, I think, some promise there.

We provide you care.

We make retirement great because neither care nor retirement have been great things for most of them who've been lucky to get them.

And so we're just at the beginning, I think, of imagining what an ideal old age could look like.

And young people and people in their prime would have to be as committed to it, as invested in making it real.

But invested not just at a fiscal level, but at a personal like.

That's right.

It would mainly be the resources physically of the elders, but it would have to be a participatory project across generations to be successful.

Real.

I think it's a legitimate and noble thing if one under one's own power and freely decides to end it.

But of course, we would need to understand that in the conditions

of our day, where older people often are suffering from depression, a sense of neglect, and prematurely end their lives, let's say, under psychological duress, we would want to make sure that these choices were free.

And maybe that's not always the case.

So that's it's a credible nightmare scenario, but it would be a travesty of my views.

Well, you know, I would just contrast it with the utopia, which seems to me, you know, more plausible to achieve in real life, which is that we insist that as we age, we never become...

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