Samuel Tongue

It's a time of life or a time of the kind of years of life and not the be all and end all so that the hopelessness is actually a den.

It can be a place for nurture rather than complete loss.

And bringing that into a conversation with the previous poem, here it felt like the poet was in control or trying to control and develop a way of understanding depression, to give it a structure, to give it a meaning.

And that felt like a key understanding of how to read Andrea's poetry more widely, that it's always in conversation, it's always in community, a means of response to situations and to give them meaning.

So that was just an insight into how we responded to these two poems.

Of course, there would be myriad other responses.

if you were to bring them to a group and to read them together.

But that was just an insight into some of the paths that our conversations took.

You can, if you enjoyed the sense of what we do there, you can join our Nothing But The Poem group as a friend of the SPL.

As I say, we meet on the first Friday of the month, so that's 12 a year, and we get to delve into

poems and poets who we might not have read before and sometimes we do actually look at some of the the high hegions of the poetry world as well and revisit poets that you might think that you know pretty well so yeah stay tuned to what we're going to be doing in the near future and come into the scottish poetry library to borrow the books and to meet the poets on the pages that are on our shelves thanks very much for listening bye for now