Sande Golgart
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Chief Change Officer
#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
It's an app that will help you identify key moments in your day where you are inspired, where you're super present, as well as times in the day when you weren't very present. And it helps you create more awareness. With the things that you love to do, because they're not always so apparent, things that take you off of being aware, you can start to get more in tune.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Then I'll have some planning tools that help you identify where you want to go or where you think you want to go. It'll help you identify what the interference is and start to just slowly work at it. peeling back the layers so you can let your best self emerge and you'll have your own dashboard. So you can see over time, three months ago, here's where I was.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And now I'm vibrating at a much higher level. I'm enjoying life. And I can see where my trajectory, I'm on a crash course with making my life Disneyland all the time. Right? Yes. Because what's so amazing, and this just happens as you're going through the process, you really do reach a point. Like when I started, for example, I thought maybe all this was just a mind trick.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
You're just learning to tell yourself different things. How great could it really be? I can tell you right now, every morning I wake up, I'm like giddy with the idea that there is oxygen waiting to be breathed in. It's amazing. Yeah. And I think, how often have I ever thought about and appreciated that miracle?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
That when I wake up, there's oxygen just hanging around my lips, waiting to be breathed in, which gives me more life. And then how much more I appreciate every breath. Which takes me down this whole other rabbit hole of life experience, which is not to waste a single breath. If you look in nature, animals that breathe lower live longer. So a tortoise lived far longer than a hummingbird.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So the faster we're going, the harder we're trying, the more stressed out we're becoming, the more we're shortening our own life. Just learn to take it easy. Get clear, build clarity. It doesn't have to happen all in one day.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And then you'll slowly watch your whole life do a 180 and then just spiral up into this amazing thing of energy where you have all this stuff working for you, nothing working against you. And you'll just see all these amazing miracles happening for you. All we have to do is strip away the things that are interfering and allow it to happen. We're not in charge as much as we think.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Like, just let... You know, it's like a light and the energy just happens. We don't force it down the wire so that it illuminates the room. It just happens. But as humans, we've thought... that we're here for a certain purpose. Like, I was sent here to be the best insurance salesman of my company. No, you weren't. Nobody was sent here to be an insurance salesman. No one was sent here.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
We've made all these other things up. You were sent here to be in tune with nature, It realized that we're all the same. We're all from the same source of energy. We're all one, but we're all have the ability to help each other and just be.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And then in that, be productive, be positive, be somebody who lives in abundance where you're helping everybody, not in scarcity where you think you have to get your fair share or someone else is going to take it and allow an amazing life to just happen. And that's where that real stretch in between the years comes where you say, Yeah, but how? When I have a mortgage, how?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
When I have a car payment, when I know that I want nice things. And that's what I'm looking forward to understanding even better and being able to bring back to people as a guide to help people see as I went through it. What's it like? Can you really do this? And what things do you really need to be aware of? Because right now it just sounds too simple.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
It sounds so simple that people won't do it because you get so afraid, so fearful of what might happen to you. that you jump off that bell curve really early and you're like, I got to go make it happen. There's no way the universe is going to allow great things to happen for me. I have to go do it. So, you know, that's again what I dedicated and devoted myself to is finding out that path.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
The fact that you're doing it means you're in it. Like you are being, just keep being. And you go, you just allow more and more great things to happen. I 100% agree with you and I can't wait to hear. Because you're clearly tuning in to how much is waiting for you.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Yeah. So I think for me, My 25 years of raising kids was all about my kids. I made it about them. I wanted to be the CEO, the senior vice president, making good money for them. That's what I felt was my purpose. When they got out of the house, they went on to great colleges, they had great experiences, they're debt-free, got good jobs.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
At that point in time, this is when I think it's so critical that your awareness is there, because I realized now is a great time to think about yourself. You, on this playground, have only a certain number of days left. So how can you make the most of them? And I start by doing quick, easy, it wasn't easy at the beginning, daily meditation to just start quieting my mind.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And by quieting your mind in the beginning, it's really about paying attention to the thoughts that you have in your head. So I started paying attention to the thoughts in my head. I couldn't believe like how negative they were, how much I felt like the world was holding me back, how I was now becoming older and starting to create doubts about what could you do post 50?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
What would anyone pay you to do? Starting to pay attention to these things. And I started to realize too, I wasn't really doing all the things I'd love to do. And then as I started working through those things over a couple of years, I started to recognize there was some underlying tension that I had never really paid attention to. My wife had never really paid attention to.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But because we were cleaning our energy and not looking at shaming or figuring out who it was, we started to have discussions about, are you really living your best life? and started to explore some conversations and subjects that would have been very uncomfortable before. And we started to realize that we weren't.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
We were suppressing what our real feelings were for life, for each other, for ourselves, to fit a construct of a successful marriage. Which by our own definition was, if you stay married, it's successful. If you don't, it's unsuccessful. Of course, you have to sacrifice and figure out how to make it successful. So we just gave each other permission. We just said, what if we just said,
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
divorce is an option doesn't mean it's a failure but let's just not live our life as a as our purpose is to not make something happen what if you my wife who's an amazing person like very fit healthy gorgeous model kind like it's everything you think that you would want I just said, what if you lived exactly the way you want to live?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Just the things that you want to do, the things you feel like you're here to do, I'll do the same. And we'll just see, does that bring us closer together or help us recognize maybe we can support each other better by being apart?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And through that, by giving ourselves that permission to be ourselves, let our truest self emerge, we both came to the conclusion, with the help also of an energy healer who was helping us understand what was going on, that we were better off and we were going to be more able to support each other. Which is really, when you think about it, it's like,
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
The ultimate definition of unconditional love is loving someone unconditionally. If it's better for you to go on your own and explore the world, then I'm here for you. I'm here for that. I can support you in that effort. And I too owe it to myself to support myself and love myself enough to let my best version emerge. And just because that we're concluding
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Doesn't mean that we're going to stay together. That doesn't mean it's a failure. That means in my mind now, it's an even greater success because I'm not requiring you to stick around, bury some things that you would really prefer to come out in the rest of your life because of me. I don't want to be that burden. I want to support you. I want to be your biggest cheerleader.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And if I can do that to me is the best form of unconditional love. Same with for myself. Dare to love yourself enough that you actually pay attention to these things. And then you go and track your next opportunities and really experience your life. So one of the things that we found out, because this can be very confusing to your listeners, our energies are pointed in very different directions.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
The whole premise of what I do, and this came from a couple of different failures where people would say, I want to grow. I don't really know that much about what we want to do. I just want to grow. And they couldn't even answer why. It was just, they felt this pressure because other people were growing. I should be keeping up. I should be growing too.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So my wife is an empath. She takes on people's energy and her energy in life is wanting to simplify and get things very peaceful. My energy is very big. I want to go on and
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
figure this thing out I want to share it with people I want to tour the world I want to do big things those energies are very hard to coexist and I what I realized is she takes on the burden of my big energy which is suffocating to her so the more I'm trying to be who I want to be the more I feel like
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Her energy is trying to pull me back and say, hey, quiet down, which feels like, oh, you're not supporting me. And then I'm trying to say, why don't you amp it up? Let's get going. And then you realize that's where that underlying tension is coming from.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And when you realize it and understand it energetically, not in your mind has a hard time making sense of it because you're trying to think, how do I keep this together? My job as a father, as a husband is to make this work. When I was able to step back from it and look at it energetically, I could see my job is to cut her free. She wants to be pulled in this.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
She wants this beautiful, kind of serene life that I'm not going to be able to give to her unless I sacrifice everything I want. just to help make that happen. And then I know that I would end up with regret pointed towards her if I allowed that to happen.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So that's when it became really obvious that we could support each other, be there for each other, go on and live separate lives from here forward, not regret any of the time we've spent together, in fact, appreciate it even more, and then support each other in allowing each other to go where life is taking us.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Yeah, that's right. That's right. I think all of it boils down to, again, being able to listen to yourself, what's going on and allow yourself to feel. And I think for most men, you asked the question of going into empty nesting. For men and women, let's allow yourself to feel. What am I feeling? Is it fear? Is it like joy? Is it anxiety?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And then I can start to distance myself by saying, I'm not the thought. I'm the person having the thought. And when you realize the separation and the distance between the two, then you realize you don't have to be the anxiety that you're feeling. You're just a person feeling and thinking with anxiety. And then you can start dealing with it.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And I could see and observe that just introduced a furnace of stress and anxiety to them, their company, their employees, their customers. And it creates this really horrible kind of toxic culture that everybody's living in. If you think of it differently and you think, what is it that let's get really clear about what we really want. Not what we think we should want, but get really clear.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Then it allows you to be in touch and in tune and then get it more in touch. And then you start giving yourself permission to love yourself. And I think we're as a society, we have it all backwards. We want to help everybody else. Right. We feel like, oh, my purpose is to help everyone. Our purpose is to help ourselves. If we all helped ourselves. Yeah.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
We would all get along amazingly, but it's, oh, I'll help you cause you have so many problems. No, help yourself. Get rid of all of your own issues. Be the best version of yourself and we would all get along amazingly. And that's where I feel like we owe it to ourselves to selfishly let ourselves live our best lives with compassion, with love, joy, gratitude. but mainly towards ourselves.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Give ourselves some grace. Understand that if I just do, if I show up every day, an amazing life is going to unfold. I don't have to compete. I don't have to worry about maybe Vince is getting there faster than I am. Man, he's already one year into his podcast. I got to hurry and catch up. Maybe I'm not meant to have a podcast. Maybe I just have to listen to where I'm inspired.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And then I'll do my amazing thing. You do your amazing thing. We can high five in the middle and support each other. And that's like that abundance mindset coming to life. And I think that's where I see the world. I have amazing hope for the world. But we have to get there one individual at a time. We could all get there together.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
quickly, but we have to do it ourselves, not put the onus on everyone else.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Yeah. And the thing is, one of the common threads of everything you're talking about, whether it's marriage, whether it's work, is truly detaching from the outcome that we think needs to take place for this to be successful. But when I define a certain outcome and I become so rigid about that outcome, I'll stop being my true self.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
If you think of a marriage, I think the outcome has to be that we stay together. Well, I might avoid bringing up a tough conversation. I might avoid telling someone how I really feel. I might start to not pay attention to how I really feel and just shuffle along. And before you know it, two people are together for 30, 40, 50 years, and they just hold the newspaper up. Don't talk to each other.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Let's take some real time to sit in inaction and actually think about what do we want? Because you don't have to grow your company by 10x to be successful. A lot of small business owners could, and even large business owners, freedom could be getting to the place where you're doing the same amount of revenue and working three days a week.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But they're together. And so when we're attached to certain outcomes, it really dictates what we're willing to do and not an unwilling to do. And I think it's just detaching from the outcome and saying, let's listen to our life energy. Let's find out what makes us passionate. Let's experiment a little and do it with responsibility. Do it in a responsible way. Be nice to people.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But you start to realize how grateful you are to have what you have. I'm not missing all these things. I actually have an amazing life. I have enough. You start realizing like all these things that have been tricking you into thinking you don't have enough. You've got to chase. You've got to do. If you're not busy, you're not successful. You're not worthy.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
All that starts to unpack and you go, man, life is a pretty amazing thing. I wonder how many people I could help. I know that I'm not going to be available to them the way I could be if I don't help myself first. Let me start with me. I'll be the best version of myself. Then I'll make myself available to everybody else. If we all did that, it'd be an unbelievable place.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
If any part of this episode, as people are watching, speaks to them and they want to go deeper, like just write it down and they can always reach out to me at sandygolgard.com. Because that's your energy telling you, Hey, there's something here for me to explore. So like, I think back, I could go deeper on every one of these topics from how I got into energy to. So many things.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And so if anyone's curious or they want to know more and there's a specific part that speaks to them, I'm a huge believer that your intuition telling you there's something there for you. Reach in, explore that further. Don't be attached to the outcome to see where it goes, but they can reach out, find me.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Or if enough people reach back out to you, we want to do this all over again and go deeper on some subjects. I'm here for that as well.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And having all this free time to go experience this amazing playground we're on. It could be helping families or it could be more mission oriented. Or it could be all of those things rolled into one. But what I found is most leaders are not taking the time to get clear about what they really want. So then they cannot even begin to create alignment around that. And then they're not inspired.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So they're just chasing what they think they want. And they're introducing this furnace that we've all been in. And it's just stress, anxiety. I've seen it unfold in companies like Amazon, where leadership is so pressure packed. And then one of your guests brought it up and mentioned it.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Where people contemplate or even attempt to take their own life because it's toxic, because they're chasing what they think they should be chasing, not what they're inspired to bring to life. So with Segway, I spend a lot more time asking questions. Why is that important? What about that speaks to you?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Until we get to the root of what's really inside that person and allow them to really think and feel, man, this is what I want my company to be. This is what I want us as a team collectively to go and do and bring to life and create. And then now you have an inspired leader. that's really clear about what he or she wants to accomplish, who can now create alignment with a team.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Because Abraham Maslow, we all know the hierarchy of need. Within an organization, I think the number is like 82% of all your employees want to do an amazing job. They're showing up, they want to do great work. But the numbers show that because leadership is not clear, they're not inspiring and they're not aligning the team around them.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
get 80% that really excel. You're lucky to get one out of four that are excelling. So that would tell you right away, leadership's the problem, not the people. Because they already want to do well. You're just getting in the way. You're creating interference as a leader, right? So if you just didn't demotivate your people, they would produce better.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But we are demotivating most employees because we're We're ourselves not clear. We're just introducing these frantic things. We're telling people to work harder. Life sucks. Get over it. Just get up early. Impress me with how hard you're working. All the things we've talked about for decades. the last little bit here, leaders are breathing that into their organization.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So I help people step back, unwind from that, realize how silly that is, and just get really clear to the point you are inspired about what it is you want. You're super clear. Now we can create alignment around that. Now you have a massive amount of energy behind your purpose and
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
and you can start taking inspired action which is now easy to get up in the morning it's easy to walk into the office with some pep in your step it's easy to appreciate with amazing gratitude all the people who are willing to show up and help this dream become a reality now you're working in a team environment for a team goal and you're so incredibly grateful for your customers
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
You've just created this kind of magical environment, this magical culture, but it happened because the leader became clear about what he or she wants, what they really want, not what they think they want. And then around that, we create the alignment that helps the rest of it come true. And that's when it becomes easy.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
The hard part is getting people to back up and appreciate the power of the inaction at the start. Trust me, it's going to get very hectic very quickly. So let's take a little bit of time to relax, get really clear, become inspired, and then we'll move forward with excitement, not today's new initiative, which someone's heard 30 times in their career. We're going to do it better this year.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
We're going to really hammer down and That's why you have so many people quiet quitting, mental health issues are on the rise. Leaders just, it's not they don't want to. Leaders themselves also want to do an amazing job. They're doing the best they can. They're just getting caught up in all the other stuff.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So I help them pull all this stuff apart, get really centered so that amazing things can happen.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Absolutely. And the thing about those titles that makes it very difficult is with those people are wrapped up in the identity of being a CEO. So now they have more pressure from the outside for what they think they should be doing because they have a certain title. That...
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
creates even more havoc i would almost be a huge fan that we just do away with all titles and just let natural hierarchy take its course but that's probably for a way different time so life peels is something i'm incredibly passionate about and it's it comes from what i just described which is the idea that most of the time we're in our own way
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
so the biggest amount the biggest space between me and where I ultimately want to be in life is me it's the things I'm doing with the way I think the way I feel which causes me to do the things the actions which create patterns and those patterns create exactly what I see the result so if I'm unwilling what that tells me then is the interference between where I'm at and where I want to be
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
is really the sum of all my patterns. So I have to change and rewire how I think, how I feel, how I act. So I have new patterns that create a totally different outcome. So Life Peels comes from the story of the Statue of David. So in Florence, it's widely regarded as the most beautiful statue in the world.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But what I didn't realize is that it was originally commissioned by several artists before Michelangelo. It was this chunk of marble that they brought in from the mountains in northern Italy. And it sat in Florence for over 40 years. They kept bringing artists in to look at it. And all the artists said, it's not good. I can't work with this. It's old.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
it's not the right quality i can't work with it so for 40 years it set out in the elements michelangelo came along at 21 or 22 his early 20s and he said i'd like to take a shot at it and they said be our guest no one else has been able to do anything with it so he slowly started working with it and a couple years later he unveiled it
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And what now many describe as the most beautiful statue ever created, a lady came up to him and said, that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. How did you create it? And his response famously was, I didn't create it. It was in there the whole time. I just had to strip away the layers to let it come out. And so I believe inside of all of us, that's a huge metaphor. We all have maybe
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
a shell usually for 40 years where people have told us you're not good enough. We can't do anything with you. And then it's up to us to recognize inside at our core is this beautiful, amazing being that we have to let come out. And that starts by stripping away layers of life. that we've accumulated.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And the more we strip away, the more a beautiful, amazing human will emerge, which is our true selves, where we can go and accomplish great things. So Life Peels is all about helping people identify where they're at, where they want to go. And helping them rewire and do it in a way that's completely cost effective because everyone needs this, not just the rich.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So I want to make it where everybody can tap into this, regardless of who you are, where you're from, whatever your background is. You can tap into your own true self and become your own best coach with the help of a tool like Life Peels of Me, an app on your phone.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And we're trying to distinguish a way to help you measure it because, Vince, as we all know, we live in a world that's after fast results. So we often create these grand illusions of how much change we could create in one year, which we always overestimate. We think that we're capable of way more change in a short period of time.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
But we significantly underestimate the power of what we could do over three years if we just committed to doing small things. So most people get somewhere less than a year in, they realize they're falling short, so they quit. So we want to build in a measuring tool that helps you see how your light trajectory is changing.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
So that I'm making small incremental changes, but I'm compounding those results 1% every day, which maybe over a year isn't a big deal. But over three years, you're going to become unrecognizable and become more than what you could have ever imagined. The key is sticking to it.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And that's what we have to help people understand is the power of those small changes, positive changes, how they accumulate over time, how they create better karma and change your patterns. And as you change your patterns, you significantly change your expected results. And that's how you rewire yourself to create, manifest whatever it is you want in your life.
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
Then it brings you back to the really important question, which is once someone understands that they have the power to create exactly what they want, is rethinking the question. Are you really sure that's what you want?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
You start to go back to a more primitive discussion. I don't know why I'm chasing money. Why is money so important? My health is the most important thing to me. Yeah. 30 years was so willing to sacrifice my health for money. It's very strange. If you look at just Steve Jobs, how much money would he have paid his life another 30 years?
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
And that's where you realize becoming aware, removing the interference, you pay attention to things like that and you go, I don't want to be Steve Jobs anymore. I thought I did, but I don't. I want to be a really healthy, clear thinking, high vibrational person that helps everyone enjoy their time on earth. That's what I want. First and foremost, if money comes great.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
What a lot of the great Buddhist teachers and there has to be something amazing to that, that you can actually sit in silence and there's the law of attraction. But I want to find out and understand how does it actually work when we have bills to pay mortgages? The real life stuff, like it sounds beautiful to read it on paper. How does it work in real life?
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
So I've dedicated myself to finding it out, document everything along the way. It's led me on an unbelievable, amazing journey. And I'm looking forward to sharing it at some point with others who are interested in finding a lower stress environment.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
way of managing their life but not giving up anything in fact attracting more of what they really want into their life because i believe we're not here to suffer we're here to have an amazing experience and so many of us are numbing ourselves to how amazing this opportunity is that we're missing this opportunity. I think the earth is a giant playground inside the universe.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
We're so lucky to be here, but so many of us are walking around shuffling, complaining, or trying to figure out our purpose for being here. Our purpose for being here is to enjoy the heck out of it. It's here. Just enjoy it. Lap it up. Do the things you love. Be productive. Love your neighbor. Love yourself. and make yourself available to help other people and you'd have an amazing life.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
But there's a lot that we've learned in life that led us to this point, different constructs, teachings, which are all designed for the right reasons that we have to unlearn at a certain point to really appreciate and experience life to the fullest. So that's what I'm, that's my whole core purpose and mission. And then to share that with people so that
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
people can understand what is it really like to not do anything for six months? What is it to not make any money and know money is going to come surging back into your life? Are these things possible? What does it really look like? When you think of things like manifestation and different things, I'm exploring them as deeply as I can to be able to bring back to as many people who are interested
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
to find out like, how did it really work? It sounds good on when I read it, but can I still pay my mortgage? Can I still have a nice car? Can I still have some of the guilty pleasures I have in life? Or do I need to get rid of all of those things? And I think the answer is what I'm learning. There's a bell curve where we have a life energy that's programmed. If we're all energy,
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
There's a life energy that's pulling us individually in a certain direction. Your energy would be very different from mine. And it's up to us to understand what our energy is, what our true self is all about. What are our unique gifts? Let those come to the surface and let us ride.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
that life energy and at any point in time you can go along this bell curve which the first one would be you have no interest totally empathy you're you have no desire you do nothing but you do it because you have a really down outlook on life Then you start to work hard and you think it's all your responsibility. But life is harder. You're trying to chase things you think you want.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And then you can get to a point where you start to get in tune and in touch with your own natural talents, your own life energies. You start to see things you really like, enjoy, you're passionate about. Passion being coming from the root word of suffering. When you're passionate about something, this is something I'm willing to suffer for because it's so great.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
So that's like me on those stairs doing 1400 toe raises. I was so passionate about getting to fly for a brief moment. I would willingly jump on the stairs and do 1400 every single night because that's what I wanted to do. I'd love to know if my dad or my mom said, you have to do 1400 of these every night before you go to bed or you're not worthy. I would have hated it.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
So that's where some of the difference comes in. And as you get in touch with your dharma, your purpose, the things that you're truly passionate about that you can feel energetically, then yeah, you can jump off that bell curve and start to make things happen in your life aligned with where your natural energies are.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
But you could also keep going all the way to where nothing really needs because you are so convinced that you're that worthy Miracles are happening all around you. You don't have to go and do anything. But that's for very few yogis and Buddhists that can make it to that level. But they're available to all of us, and some of them aren't necessary for us to go all the way to the end. So...
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be here, Vince.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
There's a safe jumping off point. You can jump off wherever you want and start to apply what you know with some cleaned up energy and start applying it to what you're passionate about and go make an amazing life happen for you. It's just the further down the road you get, you realize I don't have to make an amazing life. Life is amazing. And that's where some of the magic happens.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Yes, so that I don't lose anyone that's listening. The best way to understand that is that action is better than an edge. Sitting around and doing nothing, like you mentioned, that's not productive. But it's with what intention are you taking action or choosing inaction? And when it becomes inspired action, that's when it's amazing. So oftentimes what you're waiting for.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Or what we're all guilty of is we're so busy and we want to do more. We want to do more. We're adding things to our life, not subtracting. We're busy for the sake of being busy. We're busy because our ego tells us it sounds cooler if I tell you how busy I am. Somehow it makes me seem worth more if I tell you how busy I am. If I tell you I get up at 4 a.m., some people are impressed.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
why i have no idea but we get programmed that way and then we start to numb ourselves to what's actually happening all around us we're missing millions of opportunities that are available right around us our awareness goes down and now we're like in the grind making life harder
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
creating that furnace of stress and anxiety and now we're immersed in it and now we're just blindly going back to the well being overly stimulated and having this pressure on ourselves to just do more now conversely when we allow ourselves to relax especially our minds And Kong, pay attention to our thoughts. Pay attention to our feelings.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Start to manage our energy so that we let things flow through us. And we don't hold on to past traumas, previous experiences. We don't start worrying about a future that doesn't exist. We're not creating a future that we don't want in our mind. You're just being. Now you can allow yourself to start to feel, create awareness for what's really going on around you.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And you will then become incredibly inspired to take action when it's the right time. That's when you spring into this. I've studied Gandhi's life quite a bit. And in Gandhi's life, there was this magical moment where he was mediating two different sides of a divorce. And he realized, I have this amazing power to bring peace to situations and to mediate.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And he went from being a very unsuccessful person that's wandering all over the place to this very inspired person that had an amazing amount of energy that he could pour into his life's work. And then we all know the story then of Gandhi. Same thing with Albert Einstein. For a long time, he couldn't get three people to show up to one of his talks. He had to shut him down.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
No one was interested in listening to him. He wasn't all that interested in being anything other than pursuing what he could see in his mind that he was being fed through lucid dreams. Somehow he knew what it was like to stand on the front end of a light wave and travel through outer space. He was receiving those kind of messages. As he was paying attention, he just knew light bends.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
When it goes around a planet, it bends. I can't tell you why or how. I just know because I've been on one. He's never physically been on one. And so he hired mathematicians who were actually smarter than he was to prove the things he already knew. And then it create the theory. They just basically delivered the mathematics to prove the theory of relativity and
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
But he only knew it because he was being fed that information, which became his light's purpose was how do I prove that this happens? I know deep in my soul. And he was willing then to go through whatever it took to prove that those theories and they sapped through two different eclipses until they captured it. And he had it nailed to the decimal point.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Which you just couldn't know, except he was being fed that information. So it all comes down to waiting and allowing yourself to be quiet internally and externally. Sit in silence, not forever, just until you really tap into who you are, your own self-worth.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
and a touch of inspiration that's a first track go check this out so go check it out do it the best you can then look for another clue of what you should do next and then do exactly what's in front of you being a hundred percent present and then your life will lead you in tune with your life energy to an amazing experience.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And I think that's what we need to get all of human consciousness more dialed into is just the ability to listen, to feel, and to look for the signs. And then when you have the sign, Jump in and do it the best of your ability with what's right in front of you, not worrying about your past, not worrying about your future, not worrying or fearful of anything. Just do what's right in front of you.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
An amazing life will unfold. And that's what I'm experiencing myself.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Yeah, so I think as I look back, the best place to start is as a kid growing up in Denver, Colorado, I had this growing obsession with the ability to fly. And I would dream about it. and really started to embody that. And then one day as I'm watching the TV, Michael Jordan, basketball player, says, I can fly for a brief amount of time. And I said, that's what I want to do.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And I would venture to say the more now you keep listening, like to whether it's different guests or and you start asking different questions, you'll be a better and better tracker of your life energy where you recognize clues, cues and things that speak to you that are inspirational because you feel it. And you go, I got to pursue that. Something's telling me I got to look into that deeper.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
The more you keep listening and responding to that, which I would call inspiration, as opposed to doing something someone else is telling you, right? If you have a coach that says, Vince, you need to do 30 episodes with these people and do it this way. It becomes work. And that's when change becomes really hard.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
But change becomes really easy when you're listening and you're in tune with yourself and you're in coherent vibration with the universe. And you're like, that sounds exciting. Do it. And that's what I've learned through Segway Consulting. That's how I came to know that simple change is easy. And simple, easy growth, simple, easy change. It's there.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
You have to allow yourself to be inspired because when you're inspired, you can do amazing things. When you're uninspired, you just don't want to do anything. And so many of us are trying to chase inspiration. what we think we want and do what other people have told us is the right way. And we're trying to fit ourselves into that mold. Life is very difficult. It's hard.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
I'd spent almost three decades acting that way. And I feel like when you look at the mental health stats and everything else that's going on around people, it's a clear signal that we're doing something wrong. And that if we can just get in tune with more of these things
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
inspiring thoughts that will spur action then we'll actually be more productive align with our true self and act and treating each other better but it has to happen one person at a time that's it for part one we heard how sandy chased success
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And like himself, Dr. J, Dominique Wilkins, I just said, that's exactly what I want to do. I get to feel it in my heart. That's what I wanted. And from that moment forward, every night we had 14 stairs in our house, and I would do 100 toe raises on every stair, 1400, every night before bed. Until I was able to dunk, and then I went on to win the National Slam Dunk Championship in Lubbock, Texas.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
our basketball team won the national championship a lot of things started to unfold and then i became a four-year starter at the university of colorado in boulder where i played college basketball like was amazing taking on these experiences and i was set to go to sao paulo brazil to play professional basketball then i had a skiing accident and that's when everything changed
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
that basketball was no longer this dream of flying. You are now grounded, so to speak, and you have to figure something out. So I went with what I thought I knew at the time, which was in athletics, you size up the competition, you outwork everybody, and you get ahead. So I picked an industry at the time that I thought I could make a lot of money. I knew I wanted to be successful.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
I knew I wanted to make a lot of money. I knew I was an athlete. I knew I was capable. But I applied those things to the business life. So for the next almost three decades, I practiced sizing up the competition, outworking others and trying to get ahead. And that worked fairly well by most definitions. I would say I was very successful in the corporate world. Then my kids
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
reached a point where they were now out of college. They were debt free off in the world. And I started to finally have some time to focus on me. And I started asking myself, is this everything that this was meant to be? My whole focus was on my kids, making sure they were successfully launched into the world.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And I just had this kind of feeling in the pit of my stomach that this wasn't Apex Mountain. There is more here. And I was getting some signs and signals that I look back on that caused me to clean up my diet, stop drinking alcohol. I really start to strip away layers of interference to help me get in tune with nature and really listen to what was going on.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And it was started to point me in a direction. It was like tracking these opportunities. to allow the best version of myself to come out and see if I could drop my ego, if I could resolve my identity, not put these outside pressures on who I thought I needed to be, but let who I am really come to the surface and flourish. What would that be like? How amazing could life be?
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And I learned so much from that pursuit. Then I launched two companies. And that has led me to really understand what true success is for me. And of course, it has to do with money and success and doing the things you want. But I've been able to rewire myself to think as wealth in terms of success. Being able to do what I want, when I want, with minimal effort, that's wealth to me.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And that can have a monetary component, absolutely. It could involve a private jet, or it could involve just being so content with the miracles happening all around you that you can sit in peace and just know that this alone is an unbelievable miracle. This is all I want to do today is sit and enjoy the miracles going on around me.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And that kind of turns what my priorities were going into those three decades as an executive was money, success, power, and ego. Those were the things I was focused on. I thought, I want to be this. Now, my number one most important thing is my health.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Taking care of my mind, my body, being fully in tune, managing stress levels and letting amazing things, I'd say allowing amazing things to happen to me and for me. And then to have the awareness so that I'm experiencing them as they happen. And now I have this kind of calling or feeling there's nothing I get more pleasure from than helping other people.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
be the best at whatever it is that they do. And that's a big part of what we do at Segway Consulting.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like it was this miserable time. It was just that I thought that's the way that the world worked. We're here. I grew up Catholic as a kid. We're taught you're here to suffer. Don't want too much. And life is supposed to be hard. And so I just thought that's just the way that it was. And as a man, oftentimes we're not taught that it's okay to feel.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
So I would say I spent a big part of those three decades numbing myself a bit to what was going on around me and not allowing myself to feel anything. I just had to suffer through it go get the next thing. And I was accomplishing things. So it felt like the harder I worked, the more worthy I was, the more I would get rewarded.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And that was something that in my upbringing was taught to me that you get rewarded when you do well. Something I had to unlearn later in life. But through those times, I started as a sales rep and quickly ascended to a manager position. I've always had a propensity, a desire, and I'm very good at leading people, but more importantly, teams.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
I love the idea that we can get more accomplished as a group than we can as any individual. And I'm very good at bringing those elements out of a team to get great results. So I was working for a company called Regus. People mostly know of WeWork. Regus was WeWork back in the 2000s.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
So I was running, I ran everything from the Western U.S., Canada to the Northern U.S., about 250 locations, hundreds of millions of dollars in budget. And it was my job to go and take over different teams, make sure that they came together and that we produced great results. And probably the thing I look back on during that career was when I was put in charge of the Western U.S., which was the
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
least performing lowest performing terrible culture terrible everything and i had the chance to turn it around and get people to work together and we ended up achieving amazing results and outperforming everyone else and being able to get promoted and take another step forward And I had just an amazing career there, but I was still chasing what's next, what's next.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And so after 14 years, I felt this kind of anxiousness that the rest of the world was passing me up. Not everyone is really into office space. There's all these technologies. And I felt like there would have to be more. So I left to pursue more. That taught me a really great life lesson that what I've now learned to appreciate in through the teachings of yoga is that you stop wanting.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
You just do what's right in front of you the best you can and you let your life energy pull you in the direction. And when you jump off that path, life will become typically much more difficult for you.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
The more you're trying to force something to happen and not use the energy that the world is giving you... And I jumped off to try to pursue disruptive technologies, chase a bunch of stock options... and try to make an even greater life for myself with more accomplishments, more ego, more power. And that was just met with a ton of resistance.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Startup world is very difficult, but on top of that, you've got other people's egos, venture capital. I jumped into a world that I didn't know a lot about. I learned a ton about, but we were constantly being met with resistance and watching the way people would react to that was disheartening. I think businesses and situations, you go as fast and as high as the leader allows.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And that's the importance of having great leadership. And so I could observe when you have not so great leadership, what are the consequences? And I could see a very clear lack of clarity, major lack of alignment for the company and for everybody involved. And then, of course, not the results that you would want.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And it helped me really internalize what things need to be in place for companies to really grow and grow easily. When you have clarity, you have alignment. I've seen and been a part of organizations and run large teams where the growth becomes very easy, but the clarity is the hardest thing to get. And then building alignment around that clarity, it makes it easy for everybody to contribute.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And that's kind of part of what I was pulling away from these experiences. The most important thing I pulled away as I felt as I launched into this disruptive technology world and we missed on our first attempt, I could feel a sense of failure. Oh, shoot. Maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was. Maybe I'm not as smart as I thought I was. And I could feel my own energy lowering.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And then I was attracting worse energy. environments, worse cultures, worse leaders, because that's where my frequency was going. I was starting to blame, shame, criticize more than I ever had. And I was now finding myself attracting other cultures where people blame, shame, and do those kinds of things. So my last corporate job, I found myself in this highly toxic, super low vibrating culture.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
But again, I still thought I could help change. I could help Bring this somewhere. And that's where I learned another really important lesson that you can only help people with an open mind who want the change. No matter how hard you want someone to want something. And I was giving really leaning in and trying to give up.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
a group of people everything that i had to help them see how much better a life an experience a company they could experience but i learned really quickly that People have to approach that with an open mind. They have to want it, or it doesn't matter what you're willing to do for them. They have to be willing to do it for themselves. They learned that lesson.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
They also learned to lean in to what's right in front of you, which was one of the lessons I had learned six years previous when I left Regents. You really owe it to yourself to lean into what's right in front of you and not chase something you think you want. And it was right about that time I actually read a quote from Rumi that changed my life forever.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
It's what my core mission of being here from today moving forward. And that is, Rumi said... When I chase what it is I think I want, my life becomes a world of stress and anxiety. I think he says a furnace of stress and anxiety. When I sit in silence, I realize that what I want also wants me. It's looking for me and it will find me.
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
And to the man that can understand this, great things, there's a great lesson in it. And I something when I read it, like I got a surge of energy and it was like, there's something to that. You have to explore that and start to figure that out. And I've now dedicated my life to understanding what exactly that means for.