Sander Schulhoff

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · AI prompt engineering in 2025: What works and what doesn’t | Sander Schulhoff (Learn Prompting, HackAPrompt) · 19 Jun 2025 podcast

And the ability to like it's called il elicit, you know, certain performance improvements and behaviors from LMs is a really big area of study.

Uh so he's he's absolutely right with that.

But yeah, from my perspective, prompt engineering is absolutely still here.

Uh I actually was at the AI Engineer Worlds Fair yesterday and there was somebody, I think before me giving

a talk that prompt engineering is dead.

And then my talk was like next.

And it was titled

prompt engineering.

Uh and so I was like, uh I gotta, you know, be prepared for that.

Uh and

My perspective and and this has been validated over and over again is that people will kind of always be saying it's dead or it's gonna be dead with the next model version.

But then it comes out and it's not.

And we actually came up with a a term for this, uh, which is artificial social intelligence.

Uh I imagine you're familiar with the term social intelligence, which kind of describes how people communicate, interpersonal communication skills, all of that.

We have recognized the need for a similar thing, but with communicating with AIs and understanding the best way to talk to them, understanding what their responses mean, and then how to adapt, I guess, your kind of next prompts to that response.

So, you know, over and over again, we have seen prompt engineering continue to be very important.

So recently I was working on a project for a medical coding uh startup where we were trying to get the Gen AIs, uh GPT-4 in this case, to perform medical coding uh on a certain doctor's transcript.

And so I tried out all these.

uh all these different prompts and and ways of kind of showing the AI what it should be doing.

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