Sander Schulhoff

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947 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard Jun 2025

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There's lots of different ways of implementing this.

Got it.

That is very cool.

this is classified under thought generation.

Uh a a general set of techniques that get the LLM to write out its reasoning.

generally not so useful anymore because as you just said there's these reasoning models that have come out uh and they by default do that reasoning.

That being said

All of the major labs are still publishing, uh publishing, still uh productizing, producing uh non-reasoning models.

And it was said as GPT-4, GPT-4.0 were coming out, hey, like these models are so good that you don't need to do chain of thought prompting on them.

Uh they just kind of do it by default, even though they're not actually reasoning models.

So I don't know.

I guess a weird distinction.

Uh and so I was like, okay, great, you know, fantastic.

I don't have to add these extra tokens anymore.

And I was running, I guess, like GPT 4 on a battery of thousands of inputs.

Uh and

I was finding like

You know, ninety nine out of a hundred times it would write out its reasoning, great, and then give a final answer.

But one in a hundred times, it would just give a final answer, no reasoning.

Why?

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