Sanne de Boer

But the idea could be that I'm making a lot of money from this subject in my country, and I'm just sort of... The idea is really for me to tell people how beautiful collaboration is,

that there is a world out there that will teach them about their own countries in a different, in a new way.

And the best compliment I get after people read the book is when they tell me, I read your book, I'm now going on holiday in Calabria.

I hope that the message of the book, definitely not to stigmatize Calabrian people, definitely not to also believe that all we have to do is now put all these criminals behind bars, because that's already happening, most part in Italy, and it's not resolving the problem.

I mean, there's less people being killed in Italy.

There's a lot of people in jail.

But when they come out, they just go back again, because that's what is expected of them.

So really what we need to do

And I think I will focus more about that in my newer work is trying to find a more of a holistic approach to resolving these issues.

And that might sound a little bit, well, I don't know, not so sexy and not so spectacular.

Yes, but of course, of course, you see this in communities in Calabria.

Sometimes young people, they find a way to really get together and work on

creating an alternative they they pay attention to to how what their village looks like to supporting each other to uh really creating an alternative to these um because of course like we've talked about construction often what happens is um and of course that's not the small construction company on the corner but it's the larger ones that have that can build the bridge

for the municipality, they have so much power because they had people working for them.

And in return, these people might vote for the candidate of their choice, of the Drankete Klen's choice, and that makes this whole thing go on as a perpetual mobile.

So if you want to fight this, a lot of it has to do with creating a complete alternative for people to have security, to have support and a future that looks differently, that really is more sensitive to the needs of a whole community instead of a few people just trying to get really rich and powerful.

I was invited by an author to help them write their book.

So I was working there actually as an editor.

I had never been in the south of Italy.

I was immediately, I fell in love with the natural beauty of the place.