Sara Civian

We need the energy guy in the chat.

I think that's actually a really good way to look at it, that everything isn't so black and white sometimes.

When we think about his role in this situation, I think he is more genuinely remorseful than many people that have been in a situation like this prior.

But even then, I look at it and say, if you were truly...

looking out for the victims.

And you have already done so much winning in your career.

You're very old.

Why don't you just call it a career?

You have enough money.

Why don't you kind of look, if you really are as genuinely remorseful and wish you did more, the more you could do is maybe kind of go away.

At the same time, I wish...

there was a little more specifics about if he's going to be in this doing programs.

They always say programs when it comes to the NHL.

Like when I was covering the Carolina Hurricanes, they brought Tony back.

They always told me he's doing programs.

I'm asking, hey, what are these programs?

So I wish people would ask more questions about what the alleged programs are and what he's doing in the community for victims of sexual abuse.

You know what I mean?

I think talking about it and making it more forefront could be a way to feel better and feel like he is kind of giving back after he does seem genuinely remorseful.

That's not enough if he's going to be a leader in this community.