Sara Imari Walker

And if they don't match, we think they're not intelligent.

And that's just that's just not right.

Yeah, I would say it's certainly possible that they're communicating things that are emotional or much more intelligent than we give them credit for, just like with their patterns of speech, because they're pretty complex.

Yeah.

That and then just like survive in our environment.

Right.

Animals are one danger, but there's plenty other ones like you don't want to eat the wrong berries.

You want to like make sure that you have warm clothes in winter.

Right.

I mean, it's.

Yeah, for sure.

I think this is one of the things that really motivated me to really, like, I mean, obviously, I love theoretical physics and thinking deeply about the nature of reality, but, like, why pick the problem of life?

And I think life is so complicated.

Like, all the examples you're giving, we don't really understand what it's like to be another species or even to be another human, quite honestly.

And I think without, like, if we had a deep understanding of the nature of life, these kind of questions would be much easier.

Yeah.

And put it in your brain.

Yes.

Yeah, I think that would be amazing.

Amazing.