Sara Imari Walker

And there's billions of ribosomes on this planet, and they're kind of the engines of existence in some sense because cells require them to function.

And so I think a lot of the stuff that we're building now, like it's an interesting question what's going to be around billions of years from now.

I don't think that we as humans have invented any technology that will last that long.

But I do think the idea that we're not going to be replaced because we are like sort of a key part of the infrastructure of what comes next is compelling to me based on looking at the history of life on Earth.

Well, the question of, like, what does it mean to integrate, though?

So, like, already in this discussion we've been talking about, like, being in a society or not in a society.

And the lifestyle of a human and what a human is is fundamentally different if you're an individual living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle on your own versus if you're living in a modern society and you have all this technological aid and this, like, social constraints imposed on you that you have to hold a 9-to-5 job and you have to have an income and all these other things.

Right.

You're a fundamentally different kind of entity than you would be as someone living in the wild on their own.

And so we're already part of a technological infrastructure.

We just don't really recognize societies as that.

But it's being built more and more into us that we're kind of

you know we're kind of stuck in that like most of us couldn't survive on our own and then we're going to become more integrated with that system so it's sort of you know i i think of analogies with other kinds of life like you know molecules inside a cell can't exist on their own either but they're alive as part of a cell or you know ants in a society can't exist on their own like they need to be in the colony and i think humans are already the same

Yeah.

I think they are different.

And you could say there's like superficial physical resemblances, but I think those are kind of superficial.

I think like it's fundamentally different to be a wild species versus a domesticated one or a wild human, so to speak, versus a domesticated human.

Mountain Dew.

That sounds painful.

And I suspect that like even the way they feel about the world is totally different.