Sara Imari Walker

Right.

So it's not just like the like the obviously the physiological differences manifest and like mental differences about like the acuity of their mental architecture, how they feel about their environment, like what's happening to them.

It's just totally different.

I have a very I don't pay too much attention to it, to be quite honest.

I think for me, it's not very exciting, to be honest.

I'm much more interested in understanding fundamentally what life is.

And I think the UFO discussion really hasn't afforded me a deeper understanding of the problems I'm interested in solving.

So I don't pay too much attention to it.

I think it's much more interesting as a cultural discussion.

And some of these things that we've also been talking about, like augmented humans and all these other things, it's like there's a lot of discussions happening online.

Culturally that I think are preparing us for the next phase.

And so I kind of see the UFO discussion as being one like, you know, we culturally need to understand how we want to think about alien life, what it is, how we intersect with it.

And so there's there needs to be a lot of discussions about the nature of that problem and people interested in believing in in that problem.

But I don't really see a lot intellectually for me personally coming out of that.

Yeah, that's a problem.

So I find it interesting.

Like it's certainly intriguing and like, you know, to think about the possibilities.

But it's sort of like mythology versus reality.

And like individual knowledge versus shared knowledge.

And I think what science like, you know, you can you can question the sort of academic establishment and the way that we do science.