Sara Imari Walker

Like they were imagined long before they became actual physical objects.

Yeah, the Chinese were on to lots of stuff.

Everything.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I think this gets to the idea of living objects being deep in time.

And I also think a lot about the nature of abstract things versus physical things.

So I think everything is physical.

And when we think of ideas as being abstract, it's just because...

You know, like they're not physical objects yet in the same way that we see these kind of physical objects.

It is totally weird.

Well, people did, but you're right.

It's also distributed over many human minds.

So it's not like a single mind architecture.

It's like the interaction of many minds and the physical world that generates these things.

But I think-

It's time.

Literally.

Yeah.

So in assembly theory, we think time is fundamental, but you might think of doubt time as in terms of causation and things like you that are, you know, take billions of years to for the universe to generate, have a lot of time embedded in you.

And time is actually the creative mechanism that's expanding the space of possibilities and maybe the universe itself.