Sara Imari Walker

And those histories are interacting all the time, which is making everything much more complicated.

Like that idea of these time threads interacting that you were talking about.

Yes.

I think, I mean, when I think about like what life is, like why does life exist?

I think the universe is trying to maximize the number of things that exist.

Because if you think like things exist or they don't and, you know, like the universe is the constructor for things to get to exist, like it's building all of existence is, you know, like what physically exists in our universe.

You know, wouldn't it be great if like there was a principle of nature or it's just trying to pack as much existence in as possible?

Yes, which is also why I think we have free will.

Because if we act independently, we're actually more creative than if we didn't.

I butt heads with everyone.

wrong with that no that's what it's all about right yeah no I fundamentally love disagreeing with smart people and so I think and I try to surround myself with colleagues that share that mentality so I think it's the best mentality yeah and I think being around people that challenge you is so critical and like you disagree with them on fundamental things like that's okay like I you know I have like some of my closest friends boil my blood on some things but like but like you have to respect that they're thinking smart people and like

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

I know.

I think I think I think we do have a tendency to do that.

Well, that's good for you, too, because you grow more and you understand more by doing that.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

I think, I think that is something that's really hard is like, if you close yourself to ideas that you don't agree with, you're closing off yourself to potential to grow and understand the world better.