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Sara Imari Walker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1288 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And, you know, he was really on this idea of the universe not being deterministic and getting larger in time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And like part of that was not like it was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

he's like, he's like, I'm a chemist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

I see this in the lab.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

The second law is not like the right description of like what's going on here, but there is some underlying undeterminism and novelty mechanism in chemistry that life seems to be, you know, like really manifesting.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

For me, so what happened was when I started working on assembly theory, I started to see that there was a really different structure, especially associated with the way information gets embodied in physical objects and the history being physical in the objects.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And free will becomes...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

this idea that like you know you can't you actually can't you know in standard physics you would say like an emergent thing like us can be reduced to our atoms and all of the fundamental description is down there but what you've done is stripped that physical system of all the time inside of it right so elementary particles they don't require memory for the universe to generate them they just they they're spontaneous the universe has them for free but things like us require memory and

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

and things that know how to build things like us in order for us to exist and then once we exist we're encoding all of that history and information in us as objects all of that causation is in us which means that all of the selection over all the histories to generate us is still part of us and allows us to actually work in this combinatorial space that we can actually generate new structures and that's that that is actually like where free will comes from it's not that like

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And it's basically if you assume you can't reduce things to elementary particles all the time and you actually have time and objects, things become causal agents, actually have some navigability over the combinatorial space of the possibilities they live in that they have some control over.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And that's what I think free will is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

You don't have control over everything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

So it's not like free will is not all free or all determinism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

And I think Dan Dennett was really brilliant on this point.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

Like he talked about free will inflation, which I thought was a historic hysterical concept.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

It's like really funny.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

But it's like either people think the universe is random and you absolutely have free will and control over everything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2184 - Sara Imari Walker

I think it's fully deterministic and you have no freedom.