Sara Imari Walker

Yeah.

So part of your argument is sort of our materialistic culture is about building newer and better things.

And eventually this is like sort of just more fundamental to the process of life.

Well, I know.

I sympathize.

I am seduced by good fashion aesthetics.

I mean, who isn't?

Yeah, and I think you're right to point that this is like maybe hinting at something deeper.

So, you know, with this assembly theory stuff, my original motivation was really to get at, you know, what fundamentally explains life in the universe.

And, you know, to me, the thing that life does that no other physical system does is creativity.

Life is a mechanism for the universe generating things it couldn't generate otherwise.

And so, you know, one way to think about that is like there's like this huge possibility space of things that could exist and there's just not enough resource or time for all of them to exist.

So by a planet constructing things like us over time, it actually sort of maximizes the number of weird things that can be made.

And I really like this.

I like this idea that we're actually really literally the universe's mechanism of expressing creativity and making things possible that would not be possible without things like us.

I am familiar with him.

Yes.

Yeah.

I don't really think that humans, like ourselves as currently constructed, are a universal phenomenon.

I think we're pretty special to this planet, but I think there are certain attributes of humans.