Sarah B. Rogers

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · Under Secretary of State Sarah B. Rogers on dismantling the "Censorship Industrial Complex" · 22 Jan 2026 podcast

You had another case in the UK where Joey Breton, a footballer, called somebody a bike nonce, which nonce is not an American term, but I imagine you're insinuating someone is effeminate for riding a bike so much or in the manner that he rides the bike.

And that resulted in a suspended prison sentence, but still a prison sentence.

Yeah, basically.

And there were some other tweets too, but none that would meet the bar for American incitement.

So David, you're absolutely right.

So that was in a single year of slightly over 12,000 Brits arrested for speech acts.

And that is more than we're arrested that you're in Russia, more than in China, more than in Turkey.

And when you talk to Brits about this, you know, you're absolutely right.

Most of the British people that you talk to say this is totally unacceptable.

And if you look at the polls in the UK, you see public sentiment against this kind of thing.

But I've had, you know, both public and private engagements with regulators in these countries.

And the defense you hear as well, you know, we have a less chilling, less totalitarian environment than China.

So maybe more people are willing to break the rules, more people are willing to offend.

But

If you arrest 12,000 people a year for speech and you're raising children in an ecosystem where you can be dragged out of the airport for offending the dogmas of transgender activism, then you might not have a different culture than China for long.

Right, exactly.

When we interact with our NATO allies in the NATO context, we hear a lot about our shared history and shared values.

And it's time to ask, you know, what values do we still share?

We, together with our allies, comprised the free world after World War II and the free world that was assembled against communism.

But the cornerstone of a free world, of any free society, has to be freedom of speech.

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