Sarah Gonzalez

I've never been like, oh, look, they're making clothes there.

Like ever.

I used to live in New York City.

I never like stumbled upon these things in any real way.

And

most of them are like tiny, tiny operations.

Like 76% of our garment factories in the US have less than 10 workers because they're like so hidden.

You can't even, you don't even know where they are.

Like I went to some garment factories and I would show up and I would be like, this is like a house on a street with all the other houses.

But technically it's a garment factory, but it just, you couldn't tell.

In New York, it's like some unit on top of a restaurant and

They're so small that they're not... It's not like we make clothes here, you know?

So they exist, but they're kind of like hidden.

They're really, really difficult to find online.

Like really...

They're quite hidden.

I started working on it, setting out to like find a T-shirt I can feel good about.

And then all of a sudden, like the conversation was made in the USA, made in the USA.

And then I was like, wait, I don't know if this is the future we actually want.

Maria doesn't speak any English.