Sarah Jakes Roberts

They do like to have clean underwear, though.

And we like them to have clean underwear.

I prefer it.

But who cleans the underwear?

There's a little negotiation there, you know, and so it started like we would maybe a laundry service for just a few things.

But then we've been able to evolve that as well.

So, yeah, there's definitely some some things that I'm not doing.

And then there are other things that I absolutely have to do.

I will die on a heel about getting them kids to school in the morning and picking them up.

We all have our hard and fast, like this is my thing.

I must see them.

I need to see their attitudes before they go to school and I need to see their attitudes when they're coming home.

So when I'm on a trip like this, their sister's picking them up, which is like their older sister's, like the next best thing to have a mom look at them because I know that she'll take care of them.

But I don't play about being with them.

And can I tell you, I think not even basing it on income, because part of what low income families are able to do that often middle and upper class families don't do is low income families.

They work together in order to facilitate someone's going to school.

Like we all did back in the day.

Exactly.

And so I think that we have an opportunity to also make sure that we are allowing people to help us.

People who say things like, if you need anything, let me know that we don't want people to feel like, well, I don't want them to think I'm not being responsible.