Sarah Kanowski

He couldn't scream either.

What about your dad?

What was his experience during the war?

Yeah, I think my dad was more traumatised.

I realise now that he probably had PTSD.

We didn't know about that then.

He was also in the underground.

He was taken off the street during what was called a razzia, where the Germans would come into town and take all men of a certain age and he was sent to a concentration camp.

Because he was an incredibly tall, good-looking, blonde, blue-eyed man, he got special treatment.

He got to work in the kitchen, which was quite fortunate, I suppose.

But he did escape from there and went underground in the north of Holland.

Oh, I think that's why we had to be so tough.

All this being tough was about if you end up in a concentration camp, you'll be more likely to survive.

Yeah, we were only allowed two blankets in the middle of winter, had to sleep with the windows open.

Luckily, we had a lot of dogs.

Kept you warm.

A German shepherd on the bed keeps you warm.

Hate cold.

Don't like it.

So you moved to Australia, I guess.