Sarah Le Marquand

There's so much assumption and judgment implied in that.

But apart from that, even if you do know somebody might be wanting to have a family, there's

Is there anything less helpful than saying better get cracking on or get a move on or time's a ticking?

I mean, all that does is just make the person feel worse about themselves and compound the anxiety.

A hundred percent.

I had a similar experience where I was recovering from a couple of miscarriages when my husband and I were starting a family.

And somebody said to me, when are you going to have kids?

And I just remember thinking, because I didn't know them well enough to tell them.

And that was a real learning for me.

You don't know what someone's going through.

And it might be in your case, it could be really, really fresh.

Your mum is 101 and, as you were saying, your youngest child, your daughter Tallulah, is 17.

Can I ask you what is the easiest thing about that sandwich generation and what is the most difficult thing?

Oh, my God.

So that's, yeah.

That's amazing.

So it's like the tapestry of all these generations and everything that's happened in the culture right up to and including TikTok dancers.

Yes.

Right in front of you between your mother and your daughter.

That brings me to my next question.