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Sarah Longwell

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2319 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's sort of how I feel about the speaker, as we're like, there are a lot of events that are going to take the fundamental tensions and they're going to create the rub where these things sort of burst into view. And also, I think part of it too is that if you're Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer, you too have a base.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's sort of how I feel about the speaker, as we're like, there are a lot of events that are going to take the fundamental tensions and they're going to create the rub where these things sort of burst into view. And also, I think part of it too is that if you're Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer, you too have a base.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

It's sort of how I feel about the speaker, as we're like, there are a lot of events that are going to take the fundamental tensions and they're going to create the rub where these things sort of burst into view. And also, I think part of it too is that if you're Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer, you too have a base.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And you have been saying things to those base and your base is in part contingent on the idea that you have influence over Donald Trump. And Elon now has influence over Trump and has his own base. Right. And so when those are intention, those things will also create these inter or like intra coalition things. fights that I think can fracture.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And you have been saying things to those base and your base is in part contingent on the idea that you have influence over Donald Trump. And Elon now has influence over Trump and has his own base. Right. And so when those are intention, those things will also create these inter or like intra coalition things. fights that I think can fracture.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And you have been saying things to those base and your base is in part contingent on the idea that you have influence over Donald Trump. And Elon now has influence over Trump and has his own base. Right. And so when those are intention, those things will also create these inter or like intra coalition things. fights that I think can fracture.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And this is what I've meant when I've been talking about how, hey, look, as we look at the future, we need to remember that governing is harder, right? Getting elected and just centering everything around Trump. Bannon and Elon agree, Trump. Bannon and Elon do not agree on much else.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And this is what I've meant when I've been talking about how, hey, look, as we look at the future, we need to remember that governing is harder, right? Getting elected and just centering everything around Trump. Bannon and Elon agree, Trump. Bannon and Elon do not agree on much else.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And this is what I've meant when I've been talking about how, hey, look, as we look at the future, we need to remember that governing is harder, right? Getting elected and just centering everything around Trump. Bannon and Elon agree, Trump. Bannon and Elon do not agree on much else.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they have constructed their own visions of what MAGA means for audiences that have viewed it through their lens. And as those things then are forced into a policy realm, I think you will see those tensions continue to ignite. And so I don't know that I agree that everybody just gets away with it. Maybe, maybe. But can I also just, on both of your globalist versus JBL's

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they have constructed their own visions of what MAGA means for audiences that have viewed it through their lens. And as those things then are forced into a policy realm, I think you will see those tensions continue to ignite. And so I don't know that I agree that everybody just gets away with it. Maybe, maybe. But can I also just, on both of your globalist versus JBL's

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And they have constructed their own visions of what MAGA means for audiences that have viewed it through their lens. And as those things then are forced into a policy realm, I think you will see those tensions continue to ignite. And so I don't know that I agree that everybody just gets away with it. Maybe, maybe. But can I also just, on both of your globalist versus JBL's

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

sort of more, I would say this is even sort of like a Bernie Sanders version, because it used to be that Democrats were the ones saying, no, you have to make things in America. You know, we want American labor right there against shipping jobs overseas, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

sort of more, I would say this is even sort of like a Bernie Sanders version, because it used to be that Democrats were the ones saying, no, you have to make things in America. You know, we want American labor right there against shipping jobs overseas, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

sort of more, I would say this is even sort of like a Bernie Sanders version, because it used to be that Democrats were the ones saying, no, you have to make things in America. You know, we want American labor right there against shipping jobs overseas, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And so because the coalitions now are completely different than they once were, I think having these arguments come with a new sense of like who's on which side. But I don't think that your side's JBLs or TIMs, need to be in tension, right? Like, in an optimal society, we would be talking about how do we improve the American education system? How do we defeat China, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.