Sarah Longwell

How do we make sure that we continue to lead in technology? And, like, there's an aspirational way that you can talk about this that both creates, then, an appetite, like, We want to both produce the smartest people and attract the smartest people. And we want to be such a big, rich country that people want to come here.

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

It used to be a point of pride that people wanted to come to America because we were a great place and they were going to be additive. And that is a sense that we've lost now. because the nativist wing of MAGA, which is a big, big piece of it, just wants nobody coming in. And this is where Elon and Vivek, they see things through a prism of their own experience.

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

It's in their tweets where there's a clear sense of, There are good ones and bad ones, right? There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. And those are classes of people that they seem to take for granted in their mind. Whereas like I used to do a lot of work for the restaurant industry, restaurant industry, they want people from all these other countries to come.

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

And many of them are illegal, right? Like they're the ones right now thinking, I hope Trump doesn't mean it when he says he's going to raid us because our kitchens are full of immigrant workers that the American economy relies on.

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

Yeah, which is basically they mean Asians.

I think it's a vulnerability, but here's the thing. it's a vulnerability. This is much closer to a mutually assured destruction than any relationship we've ever seen out of Trump. Like, Trump could do that to Elon, but not without real costs to himself. And so the question is, and for me, I think the most

I think it's a vulnerability, but here's the thing. it's a vulnerability. This is much closer to a mutually assured destruction than any relationship we've ever seen out of Trump. Like, Trump could do that to Elon, but not without real costs to himself. And so the question is, and for me, I think the most

I think it's a vulnerability, but here's the thing. it's a vulnerability. This is much closer to a mutually assured destruction than any relationship we've ever seen out of Trump. Like, Trump could do that to Elon, but not without real costs to himself. And so the question is, and for me, I think the most

Interesting piece of the new dynamic has been Trump's perceived whether whether people see him as a lame duck or not, because I think there's a reason.

Interesting piece of the new dynamic has been Trump's perceived whether whether people see him as a lame duck or not, because I think there's a reason.

Interesting piece of the new dynamic has been Trump's perceived whether whether people see him as a lame duck or not, because I think there's a reason.

Thank you for saying there's a reason why everybody is suddenly saying, like, OK, we got four years of transactions. Trump's a transactional guy. We can get him to do what we want. We just got to be nice to him. And he's gone. And I do think there's a way in which Elon is much more the future than Trump is because And so I don't know. I mean, I think Trump has real power.