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Sarah Longwell

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The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Certain geopolitical calculus does it. Trump wants people to be like, he's unpredictable. He's a madman. And he wants to do it to places like Greenland and Canada, where he feels like everybody will kind of be cool about it, as opposed to Iran and Egypt and places where it can set off real potential issues. And so- Cuba, even.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

And the only way to try to dig in on that is to not chase too much of the shiny stuff that is meant to be part of the zone flooding shit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

My only thought is that, and this is where JVL and I tend to depart a little bit, is that, you know, even if he doesn't, let's say, do the thing, And I'm not eager, in many cases, for him to do the thing. I understand JVL's point that we can't keep sort of protecting people from the consequences of their actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

JVL and I talk about this in The Secret Pot all the time and other places about how there's sort of... I keep drawing lines between, okay, where are the consequences just enough that people have, like, touched the stove and they have to experience sort of what they have wrought with their vote versus...

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

What is going to have deleterious consequences for so many people that we should try to fight it? And I think that is something that we should endeavor to sort of sort through over the next four years. That's my main takeaway on that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Oh, but actually, sorry. And I'll just say one other thing, though, that's bad about it, though, is it does create an appetite for people. Just because he doesn't do the mass deportations but talks about it forever... It doesn't mean that it doesn't have consequences, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Oh, but actually, sorry. And I'll just say one other thing, though, that's bad about it, though, is it does create an appetite for people. Just because he doesn't do the mass deportations but talks about it forever... It doesn't mean that it doesn't have consequences, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Oh, but actually, sorry. And I'll just say one other thing, though, that's bad about it, though, is it does create an appetite for people. Just because he doesn't do the mass deportations but talks about it forever... It doesn't mean that it doesn't have consequences, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Like, it continues to have the consequences of demonizing people, of creating consequences, or just creating an environment that we live in where people are like, oh, well, they didn't do mass deportation, so I hate immigrants more. None of this is consequence-free. I agree with Tim, though. I agree with part of it is that, like, we should do more pointing and laughing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Like, it continues to have the consequences of demonizing people, of creating consequences, or just creating an environment that we live in where people are like, oh, well, they didn't do mass deportation, so I hate immigrants more. None of this is consequence-free. I agree with Tim, though. I agree with part of it is that, like, we should do more pointing and laughing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

Like, it continues to have the consequences of demonizing people, of creating consequences, or just creating an environment that we live in where people are like, oh, well, they didn't do mass deportation, so I hate immigrants more. None of this is consequence-free. I agree with Tim, though. I agree with part of it is that, like, we should do more pointing and laughing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking With the Mission

But this is, again, I think, for us to figure out Like, this is why the Doge fight, the Laura Loomer versus Elon Musk fight is a good point and laugh moment while also acknowledging that the consequences, like, I would say that, you know, Trump reveals people, right? It's not just that he changes people, although I think he does that, but he also reveals people.