Sarah Longwell

This isn't something that's going to happen.

But I feel less like that now because I feel like it is – it was always obvious to me, but I feel like now it is obvious to everyone what Trump is doing.

Like, somebody needs to start – and this was one of my big beefs with Biden – is you're like, don't keep telling me democracy is at stake if you are not going to act like democracy is at stake.

If your democracy depends on it, you don't renominate an 82 year old.

Like there is a gap between your actions and what you are saying to us.

And I know Lisa Murkowski.

I mean, I have been in the these are my those were my people for a lot of the Trump administration.

Right.

Is that these moderate Republicans?

I have done things that a lot of things in my private life to support them.

And I am done with Lisa Murkowski.

Like she has done more.

They do more damage now, these moderates in this space, if they don't, because it gives their tacit approval.

Like they're the weather vane for normies of looking to see what is acceptable.

And until they start saying this is absolutely unacceptable and I won't tolerate it, there's a reason the American people look up and say, I don't know, seems kind of like normal stuff to me.

And it's because those elites don't react like the Jerome Powell thing matters a great deal.

Like I said, again, it's not like this massive public issue, but it matters a great deal to a set of elites that were willing to sort of tolerate Trump destroying the country because it might benefit them.

They could be transactional and get something out of it.

And now that that's being threatened, that is meaningful.

Right.